Post, Mary Robbins. Letter to Isaac Post.


Handwritten letter from Mary Robbins Post to Isaac Post, November 23, 1841.


November 23, 1841

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                                                Westbury 11th month 23rd 1841
Dear Brother and Sister
                                    I have been thinking about you very
often latterly but as the token of the acceptability of my long letters
had not been given I came to the conclusion that I would wait for
as [sic] season and see whether you remained so indifferent as I am
convinced of the truth of the saying that the “full stomach loatheth
the honey comb” not that I would be vain enough to think any thing of
mine could in the least compare to the honey comb but that it
might possibly nauseate an overcharged stomach       But enough of this
as I have a very long story to tell and I scarcly [sic] know where to
begin as I do not now remember how much you have heard so I will
commence at quarterly meeting Joseph and self went on 5 day morning
stoped [sic] at cousin S Pearsale’s found a number of friends many of them
strangers a man and woman from Indiana ^Maurice Place Mary Ann Place[e]^[Eleasor?] Haviland &cc
E H soon began conversation with him by asking the question
whether it was justifiable in friends to encourage the slaves to leave
their masters besure [sic] it was a great evile  but it was something that
we had nothing to do with as they were brought here without our wish
and many considered them as being entitled to them &c after a while Joseph
asked E whether he would aid a Slave in keeping out of the way of his
master E thought he would Joseph said he did not see very much differenc [sic]
whether we told the slave that it was his right to be free or whether
when the slave had escaped and the master in pursuit we did all
in our power to prevent his taking him again – silence ensured and
the conversation dropet [sic]  M A Place rode with us to meeting we found her
to be a very sweet woman of the right stamp too said Hannah P Wilson
was very unstable would say one thing at one time and very soon say
something in contradiction as in her acknowledgement she said it was
signed by her own free will  M A P had had an extract from a letter writte^n^
by Hannah read to her in New York in which she denied knowing what
she signed said she was ignorant as to what it was that she was
over persuaded &c Said George did not denounce abolitionist as severly [sic]
as is his wont but his communicatons [sic] frequently seemed to have a
[behind?] allusion to them but without so [gross] much bitterness

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she [sadd?] her husband was more dissatisfied with what he see while
on their way to Flushing  Stephen Treadwel had some conversation with
George and the spirit he evinced of ridiculeing [sic] the Antislavery concern
said the West India [sic] emancipation was wrong that he had no doubt but they
would rise and massacre the white population that their liberation was
effected by man and “Wisdom of man never wrought the righteousness of
God” before the meeting was settled Sarah Wood arose and briefly atlluded to
her own state how she had not felt at liberty to attend any meeting
that there was a dead lifeless ministry among us that we were casting
those out from us who for conscience sake were not in unison there
with  the cause of the difficulty proceeds from the unsound ministry
and children were appointed for Elders and Overseers  she mourned over
our state but spoke encourageingly [sic] to some ^she then left the meeting^ Thomas McClintoc [sic] rose and as
I thought spoke well (tho [sic] I think I have heard him better) considerable restlessn
ess was manifest in some  Thomas alluded to general law’s [both] physical
moral and intelechual [sic] &c &c  after Thomas and several others had got through
George rose and addressed the youth as is his habit and said he would
revive in their hearing one of the ancient landmarks one that was
set up by the prophets that when Saul was sent to destroy the Amelekin [sic (Amalekites)]
and put all to the edge of the sword he yielded to the benevolence of his
nature and disobeyed the Divine command and saved Agag and the best
of the sheep and the oxen no doubt reasoning with himself that they
were so much better than they possesed [sic] that they would save them to
sacrifice unto the Lord and all offerings made in the will of man and
prompted by benevolence were similar to Cains offering and abomination
to God  The whole tendency of what he said was to bear on what Thom
as had communicated  Thomas said the landmarks of the
gospel were justice mercy and truth the same yesterday to
day and forever that God was unchangeably the same (I have not
many ideas to night so that I cannot do Thomas justice) his rejoinder was
very excellent  Joseph will give a little history of the appeal cases
The next day S Treadwell stood about 2 hours and I thought
said enough to silence all gainsayers spoke on all the reformes [sic]
of the day said that all reformers had had every step disputed and it rem
=mained [sic] to be so in the present day  said the temperance society
had done a great deal of good that if we could not join them do not

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let any one prevent them from doing what they saw right I cannot
lay any thing in their way I thought I was bearing a faithful testimony
against intemperance when I converted by apples into cider and treatd [sic]
my friends & sold it to the tavern keeper but on examination of the subject
I can do neither  spoke on slavery excellently and very closely too particularly
on the use of produce  George spoke his text Keep thy [foot? fast?] with all
diligence ^when thou goest to the house of God^ and be more ready to hear than to offer the sacrifice of fools
be again addressed the youth and exposed in his clear and convincing mann^er^
the fallacy of engaging in any of the popular associations of the day
for the promotion of popular righteousness for if an individual by his
exertions should reform ^a^ thousand of drunkards and prevent thousands
from becoming so yet if he did not know his souls [forgiven] ^salvation^ it was the
offering of Cain an abomination unto God and it would be said who hath
required this at thy hands – The meeting both days was large Orthodox times
over again   We have not heard scarcely any thing against either Thomas or
Stephen until a few days ago uncle David and aunt Sarah were here
aunt S was very full of complaint about it said she had heard a great
deal said about it they said too much by half  Why what did S Treadwe [sic]
come for had he any minute or was it meeting for sufferings I told her
no he came purposely to attend our quarterly M why he said last winter
that he did not know as he should ever come on L I again. Very likely
I said that he might not know it at that time Well what a pity it
is that preachers do not learn to say less  there was a young woman
at qm also at NY on first day and she was very tired indeed and
said she wondered how many more times he should preach that
sermon  Poor aunt does not get much satisfaction from us I
suppose either as we cannot join in condemnation  On 3 day
after qM  J and self set out for Purchace [sic] qM which is held at Shapaq
=ua [sic] crossed at Hell Gate and reached Job Carpenters (a cousin also by
wife too) at North Castle that night  next day meeting which was
long nothing of particularly interesting either day 5 day night
lodged at John Furguson’s whome  [sic] we wished to visit before
leaving home but we met with some discouragements  friends
did not think it suitable for us to go as Johns wife had an
infant 2 weeks old and they did not prepare for company muc^h^
it would add to our ride 5 miles and they would go with us to
Stephen Archers we howeve [sic] felt an inclination to try and we were

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glad we did it may be friends did not know how heretical we are
and feared it might have an injurious effect on us we had a very
pleasant visit to Stephen Archer’s John accompanying us  Stephen had
been sick and Jacob L says there is an improvement in him since We
did not see much alteration in what Jacob would consider improvement we
returned by New York and judge our supprise [sic] to hear (it having been MM in New
York the same week) George F White had resigned his right of membership
cousin Robert R gave us the information but he was not at the MM and he
knew a very little about it Joseph repaired to the Antislavery office to hear
particulars when Charles Marriott s case was before the meeting several
friends attended to the disapproval ^of^ the course of the M[M] by other friend
in different parts of the country  George then said he had at a previous
time sent a resignation of his right of membership but as the Meeting
did not think proper to accept he was now satisfied to remain  I beleive [sic]
his friends regret very much his having made it public I have not heard
of any one of them speaking of it except from necessity  they then try
to apologise for him by saying that he got under great discouragement
that he had received many letters from different friends charging
him with being the cause of all the difficulty and he was willing
to be sacrificed   It appears that two or three months previous to this
that the clerk informed the meeting that there was a communicati^on^
on the table from a friend and proposed that 2 friends examine it
whether it be proper to be read which was done and they decided
it was not best to be read at present – the paper we presume
was the regignation [sic] I beleive [sic] all were astonished to hear that the great
would be champion of quakerism  had faltered he told them that it
might be for one monthly meeting or one family or even one individ
-ual to support the testimonys [sic] of the society   William Healy (I
beleive [sic] it was) told them that if a slave should come to him he would feed
him and try to persuade him to return and if he would not he would
take him back in his wagon  W Healy has been to Baltimore Y M
he wanted to have a meeting with the color’d people there but friends
did not approve it perhaps they were not aware of his sentiments
and his zeal in assisting the slaveholder to retain the power [of] ^over^ his
and their eaqual [sic] brother or they might possibly have thought it more
expedient to have granted his request

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Post, Amy Kirby, b. 1802
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